Consider the testimony of Lilo Fürst-Ramdohr just one year ago, on the seventieth anniversary of Hans, Sophie, and Charles’ execution. She was an early participant in the activities of the White Rose.

“Since the end of the war, the members of the White Rose have become celebrated figures, as German society has searched for positive role models from the Nazi period.  But Fürst-Ramdohr doesn’t like it. “At the time, they’d have had us all executed,” she says of the majority of her compatriots.”


From the same BBC article of February 22, 2013.

“She now lives alone in a small town outside Munich, where she continued to give dancing lessons up to the age of 86.”

Who she was:

“In 1943, World War II was at its height – but in Munich, the centre of Nazi power, a group of students had started a campaign of passive resistance.

“Liselotte Fürst-Ramdohr, already a widow at the age of 29 following her husband’s death on the Russian front, was introduced to the White Rose group by her friend, Alexander Schmorell.”

Quotes above are from the BBC article, “White Rose: The Germans who Tried to Topple Hitler.”

To Mrs. Fürst-Ramdohr, the spirit she senses around her must seem similar to the spirit of those times…

For even after the war, she encountered the same condemning attitudes for opposing Hitler she had during the war.

Did you know that?

Do you realize just how deeply embedded in the German soul the desire to conform is? How deeply, even when conscience screams…

and victims cry…

and children wail…

at being ripped from their mother’s breast?

Consider these words from the “Center for White Rose” studies about Mrs. Fürst-Ramdohr:

[From her first interview with Center staff members]

Lilo described how hard her life had been after the war. Her mother and stepfather really didn’t want to have much to do with her, because they saw her – still! – as a traitor to Germany.

“And what the Nazis hadn’t stolen, the East German government took. So she was left with little income, raising a family by herself, feeling terribly alone and forsaken. All she would have had to do to regain her family after the war: Tell her mother she had been wrong to oppose Hitler. But she could not do that.

“Joyce asked her, “Have you ever regretted then what you did, wished you could undo it, knowing what you know now about how much it would cost you?”

“And in all the time we talked to Lilo, that is the only moment she ever hesitated with an answer. Her eyes watered, she looked away, then she stared straight in Joyce’s eyes. ‘No. I would do it all over again, even knowing what it would cost me.'”

Her conscience would allow her to do nothing else. Eternity demands righteousness. Hell is satisfied with conformity.

She died two months after the BBC article last year. She has gone to rest in peace. The attitudes she encountered among her fellow Germans, which cost her so much personal loss and suffering, have lived on. We, the members of the Twelve Tribes in Germany, can testify to this. Those same attitudes have cost us so much, too.

We would do it all over again, even knowing how much it would cost us.

When you have been touched by the love of God, what can you do but obey His word?

The question is, “Will there be freedom for the Word of God in Germany?”

The outlook is not promising:

“I consider it a difficult fact that the parents are living in a community of believers, that lives according to the guidelines of the Bible. Therefore it seems difficult to estimate, how much the parents would be able to distance themselves from spanking.” (Excerpt from a court record of a member of the Twelve Tribes.)