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Letter of response by reader Agrippino to the newspaper article

PART TWO

In this post, I illuminate the second part of the report of Tagesspiegel.de. (For the first part, click here.)

Tagesanzeiger.de writes:

“…Approximately fifteen larger houses are here, several sheds, utility rooms, greenhouses, lots of farmland. The sect refers to the “twelve tribes of Israel” described in the Bible. They would live, they say, “like the first disciples of the early Church, who left their careers and their possessions behind.” The Old Testament Book of Proverbs states: “He who spares the rod hates his son, he who loves him, disciplines him early.” 80 to 100 people are living in Klosterzimmern. Two men are approaching now. “You can’t come in,” they say, “we do not talk to the press, you write nothing but lies.”…

The somewhat jumbled paragraph says little and includes five separate topics. In the last sentence the writer obviously makes a jump from narrative to the current condition on site.

Previously anyone was allowed to come to Klosterzimmern, the people were open and friendly. Now, there are barriers and everyone is a potential enemy.

Thanks Press! You have accomplished that!

Tagesspiegel.de writes:

“…Not only the press, also the public schools are rejected by the sect…”

Press: They do not reject the press per se as the past has shown. But the perverse and perfidious (treacherous) men, disguised as journalists, driven by
base motives such as greed, hatred and envy, abusing all trust, these are being rejected. That is an understandable defensive reaction, since apparently you can no longer trust anyone. The question remains, “How to recognize a reputable journalist?”

School: The school is not autonomous for the twelve tribes. The school is part of their faith and is intended to be an embedded part of their lives and particularly strengthen the relationship between parent and child, as well as brothers and sisters. They have always taught their children and worked with all their strength to the effect that they are competitive with the public school. This is not an assertion of mine, it is a fact that you can check out comfortably: by the graduates of the Twelve Tribes.

Tagesspiegel.de:

“…Christian Reip has a certificate stating that he met the requirements of compulsory education… It means that he has no degree, not even the main school…”

“Have you made up your shortcomings? It was not your thing, the school, was it? But now you can show what is in you, and catch up on what you missed out. You can be pretty sure if you had attended the public school, you would now be worse off.”

Christian Reip says:

“…The only trained teacher was a high school teacher for some time. Otherwise, the instruction of midwives and teachers was held…

I do not know any teachers who could have learned in your place. You have to learn yourself and you have received the same learning material as everyone else after all. If you had a learning disability, maybe you’d get from a public school a teacher sitting just for you in school and teach you. Unfortunately, even that usually helps only a little. ”

Tagesspiegel.de:

“…How many times a week did the children get beaten?”

Christian Reip laughs: “A week? Every child almost daily.” On the open hands or bare bottom. One of the instructors wrapped up their rods with adhesive tape. “In order to hurt more and last longer…”

That is nothing to laugh about! If you do not tell who, what and where, it can not be verified and may therefore be regarded as a lie. Come on, tell!

Who, what and when or else do I interpret your laughter as a sardonic laugh to tear down your former friends?

Christian Reip says:

“…as Reip refused at age 13 to celebrate the religious maturity at Bar Mitzvah, a festival inherited from Judaism. He rebelled. “I showed them I care nothing about that…”

Now I find that OK. Faith is tied to freedom of belief and is above all. Christian Reip did not want to live there, the parents did. This can cause problems. A “trouble maker” like Christian Reip can strongly affect the life that the group wants to lead. Also the strict rules, Christian Reip did not want. I can well understand that also.

Christian Reip says:

“…The mother stood with the children, and she wanted to go. The father was torn, he was afraid of the future in the outside world…”

When you consider that the community also meant represented livelihood,
an exit is difficult. There is a job to be found which covers the livelihood which is difficult with a craftsman’s wage and so many children. If this livelihood is not covered, the authorities are required to assist such a family.

The fact that “community” does not work, we witness daily and is nothing that explicitly relates to this community. One can only look at the divorce rates and see that half of the population “now” is incapable of relationships.

Tagesspiegel.de writes:

For the Augsburg citizen Barbara Kohout, who offers help to cult-outs, the “Twelve Tribes” are a typical “religious dictatorship.”

I disagree with Ms. Kohout, we are always directed or dictated by something or someone. A dictatorship would also mean that you have no freedom of choice. No one is forced at the Twelve Tribes to be there and for those who are there, it is what they want to do with their lives.

Christian Reip:

“…It’s lonely, don’t know anyone…”

Welcome to the world! Here it is lonely, no one here cares about you. Here you live and die lonely and abandoned. But fortunately RTL and Co. comforts us every night.

You do incessantly fulminate now about the ones you knew. This is not a good way. Many have invested a lot of time in you, you have not been missing neither food nor clothes, had a roof over your head and people have taught you daily. Is this how you thank them?

Does everyone who takes you on take the risk to be slandered by you when you’re done with him? Who wants to take that risk? I advise you to work on your character to forgive and to take responsibility. Your bitterness will destroy you otherwise. Make peace with your parents.

Then you will find rest.

(translated from:
http://agrippino.com/2014/06/18/teil-2-rezension-zum-bericht-im-tagesspiegel-vom-17-06-2014-christian-reip-erzahlt-immer-wieder-seine-geschichte-mit-den-zwolf-stammen/)